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DIana RWS 34 .22 suggestions on scope or no scope?
ive finely made my choice of getting this gun (idk if im guna get it black or wood stock yet) but i was wondering how far will a .22 bullet go accurately at 800FPS? Will i be able to see without a scope far enough to hit a bird at 50 yds or is a 50$ scope a necceary tool for bird hunting? ALSO is this a Durable accurate gun for 200$??
"Diana" RWS 34 - Good choice
For this rifle I suggest you get the .177 instead of the .22 >900fps gives you a very flat trajectory. With 8.3gr RWS Superdome pellets you have less than a 1/2 in hold over/under from 8 to 48 yards(if you sight-in at 42 yards) - You are 1/2in low at 8 yards - dead on at 14 yards - 1/2in high at 28 yards - than 1/2in low again at 48 yards
>>Scope?<<
A great scope for the 34 would be the RWS 4x32 300 AO - If Airgun Depot still has this one on sale for $75, it's a great deal
http://www.airgundepot.com
If you don't want to go that much. Leapers has some pretty nice airgun scopes in the $40 range(4x32 & 3-9x40)
http://www.pyramydair.com
The 34 has very nice iron sights(post globe), but for long range hunting you will find a nice scope useful.
>>small game hunting<<
Yes, you could hunt small game(rabbit, squirrel, etc) out to around 50 yards, if you can make the shot(head)
Example - Jim Chapman - Hunting with his favorite small game air rifle, the Beeman C1 .177(850fps)
http://www.americanairgunhunter.com/webc1.html
He takes a jackrabbit at 44 yards with one shot to the head - This is not a stunt shot, but it is near the limits of his rifle/pellet combinations capability.
>>Is the RWS, durable and accurate<<
Once you get used to your rifle, you should be able to get 1/2in 3 shot groups at 30 yards or 1in at 50.
Durable - It will take you 500-1000* shots for an initial break in period. A high quality RWS air rifle will "wear in, not wear out" . If you take care of it, the 34 will be a better rifle, when you hand it down to your kids, than it was the day you bought it.
*Sometimes an RWS will be hard to cock(early on), try one drop of airgun oil** on the pivot pins
**Never use petroleum based products on spring piston airguns, this will cause them to diesel if it gets into the compression chamber.
Later:
What you get with the .177 is a higher muzzle velocity, which leads to a flatter trajectory and an inherently more accurate rifle.
With the .22 you get a heavier(generally) pellet that will maintain it's momentum better at long range.
IMO, with this rifle the .177 has the advantage out to around 35 yards. At around that distance the .22 begins to have the advantage. Don't get me wrong, you can still hunt small game with the .177(as per the example) out to around 50 yards with the .177, but, the .22 would add maybe 5 yards to your maximum range. The problem with the .22 and it's greater pellet mass is the trajectory. You would have to practice shooting a great deal at various ranges to learn to handle the hold over/under.
When hunting with either the .177 or .22 air rifle you have a small target(head). That's around 1.5in, if you are off 1/2in with your hold or range estimate with the .22 if further reduces your margin of error.
RWS 34 .177
900fps - 8.3gr pellet = 14.93*fpe
RWS 34 .22
700fps - 14.0gr pellet = 15.24*fpe
Estimated, but probably pretty close. Every air rifle is different, even the same make and model, so, the only thing I can guarantee is that, your results will vary.
I do not favor one(.177 or .22) over the other, I do favor accuracy in air rifles, and IMO if you maintain a MV between 850fps & 950fps with reasonable weight pellets you get the best combination of trajectory and accuracy*. >If the MV is too low you get a poor trajectory. If the pellet velocity approaches and or exceeds the speed of sound they tend to become unstable and inaccurate.
*This is for sporting air rifles, 10meter target rifles are a different story all together(550fps - 600fps)
Good luck
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